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Hello & welcome to the Fearless Self-Love Podcast! Loving ourselves is the most selfless thing we can do. When we prioritize our own needs, we show up more fully for others. We are more receptive and aware. We begin to live with ease. Each episode features conversations with creatives and wellness pros, whose real-life stories will inspire you to take the next step toward living a life you love. Our bottom line is to cultivate communities of fearless self-love and compassionate connection…and you'll feel like you're right here with us, sitting around the table with a pot of tea. We'll walk you through an easeful living practice, and leave you with a courageous self-care tip. I'm your host, Andrea Catherine, Yoga Health Coach, & your advocate to live a flourishing Life You Love. [New episodes released on the 1st and 15th of every month.]

Jan 22, 2019

This cozy recording in which I hosted Spencre L.R. McGowan of @gingertoothandtwine in my tiny recording closet, she and I explore the impact of being publicly creative. What happens after the book is published, the art exhibit closes, the podcast launches? Then what? Do you pause, get sad, allow space for something new? Spencre boldly shares her story, the one of conception, birth, and a seeming postpartum depression before new ideas and clarity again blossomed. Join us as we explore this real thing we creatives feel, but don’t often reveal. We’ll leave you with a bath of tea and an herbal steam.



  • Why to create even when you think no one’s watching (of very few)
  • What the afterbirth blues of a creative project can reveal
  • How to nourish yourself with herbs in your bath and beverage



Links Mentioned:

Ravenwood Outdoor Learning Center

Kim Krans Wild Unknown

Blotto Botany

Gingertooth & Twine

California School of Herbal Studies

Rosemary Gladstar

Haus Witch

Harper Collins

J.K. Rowling

Show Highlights:

01:50 Easeful Living Practice -- Creative Cooking

5:17 Interview with Spencre L.R. McGowan begins -- our cooking and teaching connections, and an intro to Spencre’s book, Blotto Botany

09:21 Spencre’s journey from Nantucket to Montana by way of Herbalism school & her love of cordials

19:48 The book’s release date and the postpartum depression of sorts that followed

26:20 What Spencre learned about herself in the process of producing her book, Blotto Botany

32:00 Spencre’s Pie Delivery service

33:33 Courageous Self-Care Tip


Favorite Quotes:

“What we don’t talk about as creators is the process and the emotional toll that it can take on a person.” -- Spencre L.R. McGowan


“When you release a book, it’s like...a milestone birthday.” -- Spencre L.R. McGowan


“[In the process of writing a book] I’ve learned mostly what I don’t want.” -- Spencre L.R. McGowan


“I am fucking Harriet the Spy.” -- Andrea Catherine


Meet Spencre:

Spencre L.R. McGowan is an herbalist and writer from many places, primarily Maine and Nantucket. She is the creator of Gingertooth & Twine, a blog and shop dedicated to enhancing herbal wisdom through plant based brews, meals and publications. Spencre received her certification as an herbalist from the California School of Herbal Studies in 2013 and is the author of Blotto Botany: a Lesson in Healing Cordials & Plant Magic. She currently lives alongside the icy caps of Montana with some plants.